Hey, consensus is good, right? Even if it's only a tiny percentage of the people who use this site, it's good to know we're more-or-less on the same page. I get frustrated, too, and that's one of the reasons that I started the "Tag Discussion" topic. The best way to lead is by example, so if we all start doing it "right", as defined here on the forum, correcting things we find wrong, and be gentle and understanding with the people who really don't know what they're doing, we can make this place better for everyone.

Is there any guidance that the contributors actually *do* avail themselves of, though, in reality? Meaning: yes, there's a Please-Read-This sort of thing, but do we have any evidence that contributors actually *read* the thing?

I'm not entirely certain what you're asking, Robynsveil. I've been sort of pushing for at least a simple list of available tags. Would people use it? Some might. Some might not. But even if only a quarter of the taggers, here, consulted a list before making up a new tag it would help. Frankly, I'd prefer a more draconian approach by making it necessary for you to log into your account in order to add, delete, or alter a tag. The software would track the tags you've used and if you try to use one for the first time would make you read the definition first. As I've lamented upon in my Tag Discussion thread, there are a lot of potentially useful tags on Gelbooru which have been rendered useless through inconsistent or frivolous use.

at is why the futanrai is there. for all the people who were extreamly against finding dicks when they searched for Yuri I laugh because your posting in the wrong forum, thats a 100% miss understanding of the question. the question asks whether or not those two words can be used together and be just, you people are angry that when you typed in Yuri u found futa, when if it doesn't have the label futa anywhere on it you have a right to be angry. but still this is the place were your being asked if the double label is correct, NOT whether or not futa should be left out of the name at all in a Yuri tagged hentai. now why is it allowed? because traditional futa *now that word is thrown around allot in this forum witch is pretty disgusting seeing as how the only approved meaning of futa is in a Japanese dictionary not approved by japan's government as completely correct* says that a futa is "of the female gender who has a penis whether it be from birth, surgery, a genetic experiment, or magic." Now don't quote me on that because my grammer is a little bad in translating it but the main things about that are female and penis. while Yuri is defined as a place in japan and also lily *its actual meaning" is commonly used as slang for two females having sexual intercourse among many anime and manga viewers. that why it is correct in all you definition junkeys. now you people who obviously just won't let your opinion be unheard and think that the definition saying what is a female? now heres the approved by our system of definitions that tells what a female is, the sex of an organism, or a part of an organism, which produces ova (egg cells). The ova are defined as the larger gametes in a heterogamous reproduction system. in short it means if they can have babies then there a female. Now for all you people who feel all high and mighty about being proven that a girl that was once a guy was declared a female, well that is a simple state of miss conception. the female sports and activities rules, for the most part, do not state that you must be a female to enter, they state you must be a woman, different meanings and thats there fault. and then again for the people that think that its not fair when you see a chick with balls that falls under the artist knowings, the artist is the only one who can identify whether or not the chick with balls is able to produce offspring. now for the chick with balls that does NOT produce offspring isn't futa and again your one of the people who i said at the top arn't angry at the mislabeling of futa Yuri your angry at the mislabeling and misunderstood meaning of futa all together. by the way if Clark Kents mom cant produce offspring yes she is no longer a female, she is still a woman but a female can be a girl who looks like a guy has a penis and got there vagina re routed into the shape of a penis, thats still a female, not a woman, but a female so if you ever see two guys going at it and its labeled Yuri, it can still be correct as long as they are able to produce offspring. well I've said what I wanted and if you'd like to look up everything I've said please feel free none of it is a lie and anything you do find I am gladly willing to help you understand, but please don't come to me with things from wikipedia and say its the definition or I'll just mark you off as some dope who thinks they're hot shit, please don't say anything about it in till you can find a approved website that all the definitions are 100% accurate, and don't try to fool me I am a Lexigraphist. I work for Websters and It really is my job to know what the words you people are putting up mean so if you put up a fake definition of a word whether it be of Japanese origin or Egyption, I have the unlimited resources to prove you what the word actually means.

and if you want my opinion futa shouldn't be under Yuri at all its rather disturbing looking for Yuri and finding a girl with a dick. and again as long as its not labeled only Yuri I'm ok with it when I find it.

OK, I actually read all that, but please break up your posts with some whitespace and throw in capital letters where they're needed. That was difficult enough to slog through, but you're as bad at run-on sentences as I am, and that made it doubly hard.

It seems you're in more-or-less lockstep with most everyone else, here. No, futa and yuri shouldn't be tags for the same character. It's all the more confusing, though, since we've established that there are male futa and female futa. I doubt most of the people searching for "futa" would be interested in seeing images of cunt-boys showing up. They expect to see breasts, whether or not there's a vagina on the other end of the torso or not.

You are wrong, though, regarding the de-classification of a female just because she's no longer able to have children. You might work for Webster (which is not the final word in the meaning of a term, I might point out), but I have a degree in biology and "female" is a biological definition and not a lexical definition. An eighty-year old woman is still female. So is a woman who has had a complete hysterectomy. Even U.S. law recognizes this fact, and the people who make up most of those laws are ... well, let's not get into that in this discussion. If you have two X chromosomes and no Y chromosomes you are "female" in the biological sense. That's all there is to it, and that's it. Even Merriam-Webster Online concurs. "(1): of, relating to, or being the sex that bears young or produces eggs". Note, it does not say that you have to bear young or produce eggs to be female. It says that if you are "of" the sex that does so then you are female. By your logic a girl not yet of child-bearing age wouldn't be "female", and that's just ... wrong ... by any definition. And, yes, female, here.

ah yes In more depth it means the potential to give birth. sorry if the definition does not make that clear but it is stated.

As for a biologist meaning and the definition of a female again to different things, and as I'm sure you know some "females" have two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome, and there physical features show less of a neck than most. now there are also men who if i'm not mistaken carries the same genetic make up as the woman, although they are men and not females. now what may I ask you is the defining feature of these two? The ability to carry and birth children, which the rare case of a woman with an extra Y chromosome is allowed to do. now by your meaning that person is not a female but a male, which is why the definition that we approve covers that anyone with the potential to birth children or is allowed to birth children. As for the after effect I am sorry to say they aren't a female in the eyes of the words set by the people because that is the most defining factor of a female and male. as a biologist you know that we are all wemon to begin with and our extra Y chromosome makes it so that men cannot bear children, and in a most extream rare case were a woman is unable to bear children because she was given that Y chromosome latter "and is more likely than not suffering in other disabilities, is not stated as anything at all. now for common senses sake we'll call her female even though both boundaries of our professions say otherwise.

For those people who didn't follow all that, The line of female is defined in different ways by different job professions. now I don't mean to toot my own horn *toot* but I believe my job is more suited for a discussion on whether a fictionally made character only defined by fellow Lexigraphist in japan I think it's only fair that the definition Americas lexigraphist chose for female be the overpowering factor in this argument 'even if you think it is a biological term, seeing as the two don't seem to agree with each other, its only fair we let the people with the same professional define what one's professional co-worker defines sense futanari is a "futanari" is a lexical definition and not a biological definition(which biologist are not the finalist on deciding even biological terms, I might point out.)

* I suck at spacing these things sorry If I don't do so well*

and I'm glad you brought a good question to my post very fun to answer someone with a degree in biology =)

The XXY condition is known as Kleinfelter's Syndrome (see an explanation of that, here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter%27s_syndrome), and XXY individuals are *not* females. They are males, frequently infertile, but someone afflicted with this condition will have a penis and testicles because the "Y" chromosome is active -- just battling with the extra X chromosome which isn't deactivated (one X chromosome is always inactive in a cell -- if you have two of them one of them will be active). No individual with Kleinfelter's Syndrom can become pregnant. They don't have ovaries, they don't have vaginas, and they don't have uteri. If you have a Y chromosome you're a man. It *will* manifest during embryonic/fetal development just like any other Y chromosome. There's simply no way to stop this from happening. It's not possible to be a woman with one. I don't know where you're getting your information on this, but wherever it is don't go there anymore. It's dead wrong.

As for the lexical vs. biological definition, I gave you the definition of "female" by the very company you work for and it agrees with the biological one unless you try to read meaning into the words which aren't there. If you do attempt to do that then you're not being a "purist" which is very much against the whole notion of "dictionary" in the first place. :) The words say what they say -- exactly that ... nothing more and nothing less, and I have an entire culture and legal framework behind me. I've had "parts" removed. I can't bear children. Am I not a "female" in the eyes of everyone I know, or for that matter in the eyes of the government of this country? Of course I am! I don't see "W" as an option on any official forms when it asks for gender, and I'm identified on my picture IDs (one of which was issued by my State, and one of which was issued by the Federal government) as "female". To go a step further ... words mean what the users mean by them, and I don't know anyone who would claim that, yes, I was born female but an operation I had when I was in my mid-teens turned me into something else.

And, yes, biologists *do* have the final say in defining biological terms, just as engineers have the final say in defining engineering terms, and chemists have the final say in defining chemical terms. That's not up to the people who write our dictionaries. Their job is to compile lists of definitions -- not to control the language, and the vast majority of the people on the Merriam-Webster staff are hardly qualified to even know what a lot of the technical terms mean, anyway. They didn't make up the definitions. They recorded them from authoratative sources.

Yes but even if it has characteristics of something that does not mean it actually IS that something. So if this is supposed to be your proof, it actually means nothing. But we are considering how some people who like yuri like futanari x futanari and futanari x female. But there are ALSO those who like yuri that hate futanari.

IMPORTANT POINT #1:

I think considering how a mixed/third gender functions in society that recognizes only two genders is irrelevant. This is because the third gender HAS to be classifed as one or the other. The one who tries to be female, such as shemales, WANT to be considered female despite being originally male and having the gentailia of one.

This is porn/sex we are talking about; there can be third genders in pornography. Therefore I'm saying we treat Futanari as a third gender.

I think that those who thing futanari=yuri are trying to push the futanari into the 2 gender classification. I'd say that you can't do that.

IMPORTANT POINT #2:

I think the main proof to me that futanari IS NOT yuri is all the futanari x male out there.

gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=503411
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=503410
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=494393

But I'm going to guess that those who consider Futanari x Futanari and Futanari x Female as lesbian/yuri are going to consider Futanari x Male as yaoi/gay. Yet again they would be pushing it into the 2 gender classification.

I'm not sure if it's good to bring in Danbooru on this board but here's their discussion: danbooru.donmai.us/forum/show/11853

I think that this is the major crux of the problem here: there are those who think futanari=female and others like myself that think futanari=third gender.

I'm not quite sure how to use that but does this help us figure out how to solve this tagging problem?