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ThePigeon - Group: Member - Total Posts: 6921
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Posted on: 01/05/24 10:08PM

WeeGee99 said:
I feel like there was some sort of a prerequisite for being homosexual, can't remember what it was... oh yeah, finding men hot. If you don't, you can't be gay no matter what, they won't allow you. I know because I tried to sneak in and snatch the minisandwiches once.

With that said, here's one of my new loli favoritisms (headphones on):
post #9240911

Yeah. It is a pain in the ass to get the gay certificate. *ba dum tss*

Hard Degenerate produces some really high quality shit, my goodness.

Alkin said:
Oh, I know, I just said that because every time I read a different opinion I'm looking to learn something or change my mind.

Gay time begins UwU post #7611183

Well, you learned that I see things differently.

It is still too early for gay time. Just wait 5 minutes.



WeeGee99 - Group: Member - Total Posts: 374
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Posted on: 01/05/24 10:15PM

Alkin said:
ThePigeon said:

I'm looking to learn something or change my mind


Search for "buck angel vagina" (transman who still has vagina) and using the same logic, claim that liking that "makes gays into raging heterosexuals". His vagina has exactly zero effect on me deciding whether he's a guy or a girl. Actually, he's muscular and has a vagina, from the bits and pieces I see here, you should find him hot?

Btw since this is all a bit touchy, let me just preemptively say nothing I say hear is meant as a personal attack or anything.



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 4291
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Posted on: 01/05/24 10:21PM

Funny that a few months ago the lolicons in this topic were going "nooooo Sadsap, plz shut up, you're gonna get the topic locked" and now a transgender debate, probably one of the most touchy subjects of the modern western world, is happening.

Heh heh heh.



ThePigeon - Group: Member - Total Posts: 6921
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Posted on: 01/05/24 10:25PM

SadSap said:
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The tone of the debate matters. This one was not inflammatory.

WeeGee99 said:
Search for "buck angel vagina"

Not doing that again, I have suffered enough.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1604
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Posted on: 01/05/24 10:43PM

hey laura.loli i am sorry for being an asshole to you last time this topic happened. i didn’t mean all the mean stuff i said.

with love, supremz



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 4291
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Posted on: 01/05/24 10:43PM

WeeGee99 said:
While I accept that transwomen have a female person inside, their bodies are non-female. It's not the genitals, it's a million of tiny differt curves and angles, bone sizes, ratios... that's what makes a body male or female. Especially a billion of minute facial details, faces are what makes or breaks a male-or-female debate for me. Well, also voice. This cannot be changed through any operation. Besides, if they keep their penis, they're not even transwomen - they're shemale. And again, shemale have nothing to do with futanari. Even if it's a girl with only a cock, shemale is a male body that has been operated on. I don't think liking transwomen or shemale is truly gay though, I'd say it's something else - but it is non-straight.

Y-Y-You fucking disgusting evil transphobe!!!

Just kidding. I agree with this part. Even though it may be a highly uncomfortable truth for those in the queer community, there are significant smaller (but definitive) differences between male and female that ultimately separate the two. If Billie Elish had a penis surgically attached to her, she would still be 100% female (outside of the male penis that was attached to her)

Bottomline is, futanari are literally girls and 100% straight. In fact, there are usually no males in futanari content, seems even straighter than porn where the cameraman believes showing us the guy's anus is very important for our enjoyment, or when the male actors just can't shut up, things you just have to push through since the rest was pretty hot. See? Futas make things more enjoyable for a straight guy, all moans are female, all actors are female, but I can still selfinsert and relate - they still have the same "toy" that I have, which enables me to know what they feel. I don't know what having a moist vagina feels like, I can't relate to being penetrated, but I know all about having a ding ding dong.

I strongly disagree with this though. There's no way in hell futanari is 100% straight. Somewhere between 30% to 80% straight would be far more accurate. There's just something that's almost objectively queer about a woman with an organic penis and testicles attached to them. Also the logic of "girl with penis = straighter than male" just makes no sense to me. I don't think futa is gay, but it's definitely not "super straight". I have no problem getting off to biological women with natural vaginas, and it's the only thing I truly get off to.

I guess we all have our differences in perceiving this subject, but me personally, I see nothing "100% heterosexual" about a woman with a penis. Even with the biologically female, super feminine, woman with a penis and testicles surgically attached to them, it still feels like it's somewhere within the queer boundaries, if even just a little bit.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1604
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Posted on: 01/05/24 11:13PM

SadSap oyxogxhkxlh I have no problem getting off to biological women with natural vaginas, and it's the only thing I truly get off to.
Vaginas look like the wrinkles on a seal’s blubber near his junk



WeeGee99 - Group: Member - Total Posts: 374
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Posted on: 01/05/24 11:24PM

SadSap said:
WeeGee99 said:
While I accept...

Y-Y-You fucking disgusting evil transphobe!!!...
Bottomline is...

I strongly disagree with this though...


Hmm... you may be on to something here. My main problem is when people say that "futa is gay". But you're probably the first person who said "queer". Maybe the main thing here is that "futa is non-gay" rather than "futa is straight". And perhaps I'm not being completely fair here, when I have a problem with people pushing me into the "gay" category and argue against it, I may be inadvertently trying to push straight people into the "straight+futa" category.

I still don't think that "queer" would fit, and I don't think any IRL tag could. There are no IRL futas and we never really had to think about this. I know that queer is supposed to be an umbrella term, but I still get rained upon when I stand under it.

Basically, what I miss is a way to quickly and neatly express that I see genitals as neither male or female. If there's a severed cock on the table, I don't find it male. If it's then slapped onto a man, I see it as male and I don't find it attractive. If it's slapped onto a female, it becomes female and then it's attractive. But it's a transitive attractiveness, only due to the person (body) wearing it.

I can't help but think about these things in bigger context. For example, I've seen a video with Xev Bellringer, where she swapped bodies with her brother - so your POV was the sister in a male body, while Xev (whom I find very attractive) was now the brother in a female body. Now sorry for the TMI but it's kinda necessary, when they swapped, my boner was a goner. Her acting was so good I literally saw her as male and now there's this guy trying to fuck me, ew. Couldn't watch it.

In my view, futa really is 100% straight, but I should be careful about saying that in a way that implies "it's weird if straight people don't find futa hot".

In summary:

I'd say futas are 100% straight if you see them as 100% girls, otherwise it's more or less queer, and virtually never gay (unless someone really sees futas as 100% men, hardly). And there are no tags to express this monstrosity of a description with just a single word.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1604
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Posted on: 01/05/24 11:31PM

i like the cock too even if it is not on a man but if it didn’t make me gay i still wouldn’t care either way

just like i eat my curry and wey

like miss muffit

muffin

like, how much does my muffler with the giant butt bench WEIGH

i still love Jesus so i will not go to hell

no matter what the priesthudz say~



Hee-Ho - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2300
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Posted on: 01/05/24 11:58PM

SadSap said:
Funny that a few months ago the lolicons in this topic were going "nooooo Sadsap, plz shut up, you're gonna get the topic locked" and now a transgender debate, probably one of the most touchy subjects of the modern western world, is happening.

Heh heh heh.

This website always had off-topic discussions.
What are you talking about?



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