SystemError said:
At least Jerl doesn't seem as irritated by making explanatory walls of text that might look like emphatic.
Jerl is Buckley. Everyone knows this. Words are his waifu.
Now that's a blunder. I tagged it several times in the past few weeks. But I tagged black_legwear tags too, yay.
Nope, I understood it is against the philosophy here, and I never wanted to reintroduce it in the first place. I'm simply saying it's a worthwhile tag on sites where they use it. IMHO.
Sites that still use it are free to do so, maybe they aren't as strict about how this goes. That's fine, I was never concerned about what people who don't influence what we do here are doing.
And no, they can't be ruder, someone here called me a Teletubby once.
I'm aware that this is a joke, but you honestly do not understand how lucky you got.
If this were Danbooru, they'd laugh at you and probably ban you around this point for still going on about it.
Not sure if taunting or comically missing the point. But you see, that's why I wrote you would be an awesome Wikipedia editor. Reading that felt like seeing the "original research" and "citation needed" templates on WP, which is amusing, since we are on a booru.
The website doesn't change the fact that saying something without examples to back it up makes saying it at all pointless.
I could have wrote "few", the general meaning I went for is that imho redundant tags mean a usability boost, i.e. a more user-friendly site.
I'd argue that the site is plenty user friendly, it's not rocket science and you'll probably understand it in a few hours if you aren't being silly.
Sorry, I thought that you agree with my point saying they would make you mods more job by mistagging. So in reality, this is purely a theoretical, logical issue. Redundancy is bad... because it is redundant.
We don't need a million tags to cover something one tag does just fine and we don't need several tags to cover something a tag combination can find.
It seems like when I give value to be able to find things faster and in a bit more intuitive ways (example: foxgirl) by using redundant tags (which is definitely a positive effect of redundancy)
That's like what, five seconds if you're terrible at typing? It's literally one key more.
And it's not even intuitive since if it WAS a tag, it would be covered under the tags we already kept.
The same goes for the "fellatio under covers" tag that you suggested.
(Please note that I'm not arguing about the liberal use of ANY tags, but about the use of a FEW redundant tags which could be tought as intuitive for a noob, for example someone who visits Gelbooru for the first time and doesn't think of the possibility of Gelbooru having an actual fox_ears tag to search for fox girls, which he/she would call "foxgirls".)
Since we're playing the assumptions game, we can also assume someone who's looking for X would look for a character who's has those features and go from there.
In fact, this whole argument is silly.
>Someone who first visits Gel might not know the Japanese name of their favorite character, therefore we should use the english names
>Someone who first visits Gel might not understand the breast scale so we should just tag everything with breasts and nothing more
>Someone who first visits Gel might not understand that from behind DOESN'T MEAN THE SEXUAL POSITION HOLY FUCK so we should just let them keep shitting up the tag
It's a slippery slope and it doesn't make sense at all. You learn to adapt and you move on. You don't demand that a system that works fine change because you are unwilling to learn.
Diary of a Mod Kid. I guess I wouldn't be a mod if I get tired and pissed by hordes of genuinely well-intentioned idiots.
Well-intentioned implies they're doing anything other than being lazy.
They aren't.
There are plenty of people who have had their questions answered without people snarking because they're asking questions that couldn't be solved with one search.
And really, catgirl, foxgirl etc. is imho imho intuitive at first and for noobs, than cat_ears, fox_ears etc.
If they can't figure out that girls who might be called catgirls would have the cat_ears tag on the image, then they should just sit in a corner somewhere because that's like beyond stupid.
You say it is pointless because it is an alternative way to find stuff. I don't (wouldn't) find it pointless.
Probably, but I would love what the others think of this. Again, I would like to emphasize the fact that I'm more concerned about the general idea of hating redundancy than about individual, specific tags you would like to see examples of by me. I'm sure you too see that this is about concepts and general ideas, not catgirl tags.
And pweez stop that greentexting, I hate when I get the feeling of /b/ when I'm actually not in /b/. Let's pretend we are all more intelligent than /b/tards, kay?
It's quoting, as Gyro covered.
/b/ didn't invent it and I have never been to /b/, so
You can take the /v/irgin out of /v/, but you can't take /v/ out the /v/irgin* For an average person, imho "catgirl" is more intuitive to guess than "cat_ears".
This is the second time you've made this assumption, but have absolutely nothing to back it up with.
When I nuked the tag, I took the time to point people in the right direction.
It's been several months now, everyone knows which tag is the right one.
The fact that nothing has been tagged with catgirl in about half a year proves you wrong. If it were a massive issue, people would be using the wrong tag all the time. This doesn't happen.
The same goes for schoolgirl. Sure, it shows up, but we point people to the right tag and it stops.
This isn't nearly as big of a thing as you're making it.
We shouldn't build the tagging system around the users, it's in everyone's best interests to LEARN how to use it properly and changing easy to find tags just because one in sixty is too dense to figure it out helps no one.
(Not all animal tailed characters have animal ears, or they aren't necessarily visible - sorry, no example here now, this isn't Wikipedia).
The burden of proof is on you, though. You've made the claim, you should be able to back it up.
But, I did your work for you. According to Dan, there are thirty four pages of images with the cat tail tag and no cat ears tag. At least two pages of that are simply missing the right tag, about seven pages have fake animal ears, which one would reckon you'd want to see if you were looking for X girl and not being picky anyway.
This shows that there simply isn't a need for the tag because it's already covered any you can find whatever you're looking for with a minus.
This is imho a user-friendly and positive effect. This positive effect isn't affected by the presence or absence of one or more, probably less intuitive tags, which could be used to find the posts.
Deusexcalamus said:
stay on topic...stay...on...topic....stay...ON...TOPIC
At least the first page has a few useful threads on it, even if it's been slightly derailed.
Maybe someone will find it and actually need some help.
No one else ever answered my object head tag question, so bringing us back on topic with that
I guess head variant could work too, since it's the literal translation or something.
I'm totally done now, I promise