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A little confused on this site's policy on AI content
Posted on: 04/28/24 02:45PM
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9969277
Hi, could anyone tell me what the appropriate process for uploading AI generated content is? On the ToS it is explicitly mentioned that AI content needs to be appropriately tagged as such and I had made sure to do that. But on this forum’s rules, it says that if the post was deleted for being AI generated, I need to prove it wasn’t? Additionally, the forum’s owner has also advertised their stance on AI content so I am a little confused here on why this ended up being deleted.
Hi, could anyone tell me what the appropriate process for uploading AI generated content is? On the ToS it is explicitly mentioned that AI content needs to be appropriately tagged as such and I had made sure to do that. But on this forum’s rules, it says that if the post was deleted for being AI generated, I need to prove it wasn’t? Additionally, the forum’s owner has also advertised their stance on AI content so I am a little confused here on why this ended up being deleted.
Posted on: 04/28/24 03:28PM
IncComplex3D said:
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9969277
Hi, could anyone tell me what the appropriate process for uploading AI generated content is? On the ToS it is explicitly mentioned that AI content needs to be appropriately tagged as such and I had made sure to do that. But on this forum’s rules, it says that if the post was deleted for being AI generated, I need to prove it wasn’t? Additionally, the forum’s owner has also advertised their stance on AI content so I am a little confused here on why this ended up being deleted.
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9969277
Hi, could anyone tell me what the appropriate process for uploading AI generated content is? On the ToS it is explicitly mentioned that AI content needs to be appropriately tagged as such and I had made sure to do that. But on this forum’s rules, it says that if the post was deleted for being AI generated, I need to prove it wasn’t? Additionally, the forum’s owner has also advertised their stance on AI content so I am a little confused here on why this ended up being deleted.
AI content needs to be indistinguishable from real art. So it can't contain any ai artifacts (squidfingers, fine details merging into other details in unnatural ways, ect). At the current stage of this technically, the only way this is possible is to use an art program and manually fix them.
Posted on: 04/28/24 03:39PM
CarbuncleMew said:
AI content needs to be indistinguishable from real art. So it can't contain any ai artifacts (squidfingers, fine details merging into other details in unnatural ways, ect). At the current stage of this technically, the only way this is possible is to use an art program and manually fix them.
AI content needs to be indistinguishable from real art. So it can't contain any ai artifacts (squidfingers, fine details merging into other details in unnatural ways, ect). At the current stage of this technically, the only way this is possible is to use an art program and manually fix them.
That's a very subjective bar to make as a site-wide policy.. and not to mention the ambiguity - you can have AI generated images with varying level of such artifacts ranging from obviously messed up and unnatural stuff to you won't even recognize the aberrations from a cursory look, the latter of which seems more acceptable to me and believe the bucket my post falls under. But thank you for at least giving an explanation.
Posted on: 04/28/24 03:44PM
IncComplex3D said:
That's a very subjective bar to make as a site-wide policy.. and not to mention the ambiguity - you can have AI generated images with varying level of such artifacts ranging from obviously messed up and unnatural stuff to you won't even recognize the aberrations from a cursory look, the latter of which seems more acceptable to me and believe the bucket my post falls under. But thank you for at least giving an explanation.
CarbuncleMew said:
AI content needs to be indistinguishable from real art. So it can't contain any ai artifacts (squidfingers, fine details merging into other details in unnatural ways, ect). At the current stage of this technically, the only way this is possible is to use an art program and manually fix them.
AI content needs to be indistinguishable from real art. So it can't contain any ai artifacts (squidfingers, fine details merging into other details in unnatural ways, ect). At the current stage of this technically, the only way this is possible is to use an art program and manually fix them.
That's a very subjective bar to make as a site-wide policy.. and not to mention the ambiguity - you can have AI generated images with varying level of such artifacts ranging from obviously messed up and unnatural stuff to you won't even recognize the aberrations from a cursory look, the latter of which seems more acceptable to me and believe the bucket my post falls under. But thank you for at least giving an explanation.
No, yours definitely has some pretty bad artifacting. You don't even need to zoom in to see all the issues with the chicks face alone.
Posted on: 04/28/24 06:04PM
IncComplex3D said:
That's a very subjective bar to make as a site-wide policy.. and not to mention the ambiguity - you can have AI generated images with varying level of such artifacts ranging from obviously messed up and unnatural stuff to you won't even recognize the aberrations from a cursory look, the latter of which seems more acceptable to me and believe the bucket my post falls under. But thank you for at least giving an explanation.
CarbuncleMew said:
AI content needs to be indistinguishable from real art. So it can't contain any ai artifacts (squidfingers, fine details merging into other details in unnatural ways, ect). At the current stage of this technically, the only way this is possible is to use an art program and manually fix them.
AI content needs to be indistinguishable from real art. So it can't contain any ai artifacts (squidfingers, fine details merging into other details in unnatural ways, ect). At the current stage of this technically, the only way this is possible is to use an art program and manually fix them.
That's a very subjective bar to make as a site-wide policy.. and not to mention the ambiguity - you can have AI generated images with varying level of such artifacts ranging from obviously messed up and unnatural stuff to you won't even recognize the aberrations from a cursory look, the latter of which seems more acceptable to me and believe the bucket my post falls under. But thank you for at least giving an explanation.
Many of our policies are subjective.
If there is any level of artifacting, the image is not allowed. As stated in the Terms of Service, AI-generated images must be indistinguishable from human-drawn. If we can identify artifacts at all, even if we have to look at it for a while or someone has to point them out to us, the image can be distinguished from human-drawn and will be removed.
Deleting images with artifacts has been a precedent since before AI-generated images were even a thing. AI upscales have been disallowed since Waifu2x very first came out, we've always only allowed third-party edits if it wasn't possible to tell that the image was edited without seeing the original, so even artifacts left behind from someone doing work by hand aren't allowed, and noticeable JPEG compression artifacts on their own are enough for an image to be deleted regardless of how well it was drawn. Artifacts of any kind lower the quality of an image.
As CarbuncleMew said, it's very rare for purely AI-generated images to be able to meet this bar. It usually only happens by sheer luck when trying to generate an image that avoids most of the elements that AI tends to mess up, such as chains, jewelry, and detailed hair. Most of the time, AI-generated images will need significant manual editing to be accepted.
The reason for the rule about only restoring AI-generated images if you can prove that it wasn't AI-generated at all is because if the image was deleted, then some member of staff found AI artifacts. This means that the post was distinguishable from human-drawn art. The only way for the deletion to be incorrect in this situation is for the image not to have involved AI at all and for the artifact to instead be a mistake by the human artist who drew it. It should be noted, though, that mistakes that look like AI artifacts will often qualify the artwork itself as being poor.
Posted on: 04/28/24 07:49PM
Jerl said:
Many of our policies are subjective.
If there is any level of artifacting, the image is not allowed. As stated in the Terms of Service, AI-generated images must be indistinguishable from human-drawn. If we can identify artifacts at all, even if we have to look at it for a while or someone has to point them out to us, the image can be distinguished from human-drawn and will be removed.
Deleting images with artifacts has been a precedent since before AI-generated images were even a thing. AI upscales have been disallowed since Waifu2x very first came out, we've always only allowed third-party edits if it wasn't possible to tell that the image was edited without seeing the original, so even artifacts left behind from someone doing work by hand aren't allowed, and noticeable JPEG compression artifacts on their own are enough for an image to be deleted regardless of how well it was drawn. Artifacts of any kind lower the quality of an image.
As CarbuncleMew said, it's very rare for purely AI-generated images to be able to meet this bar. It usually only happens by sheer luck when trying to generate an image that avoids most of the elements that AI tends to mess up, such as chains, jewelry, and detailed hair. Most of the time, AI-generated images will need significant manual editing to be accepted.
The reason for the rule about only restoring AI-generated images if you can prove that it wasn't AI-generated at all is because if the image was deleted, then some member of staff found AI artifacts. This means that the post was distinguishable from human-drawn art. The only way for the deletion to be incorrect in this situation is for the image not to have involved AI at all and for the artifact to instead be a mistake by the human artist who drew it. It should be noted, though, that mistakes that look like AI artifacts will often qualify the artwork itself as being poor.
IncComplex3D said:
That's a very subjective bar to make as a site-wide policy.. and not to mention the ambiguity - you can have AI generated images with varying level of such artifacts ranging from obviously messed up and unnatural stuff to you won't even recognize the aberrations from a cursory look, the latter of which seems more acceptable to me and believe the bucket my post falls under. But thank you for at least giving an explanation.
CarbuncleMew said:
AI content needs to be indistinguishable from real art. So it can't contain any ai artifacts (squidfingers, fine details merging into other details in unnatural ways, ect). At the current stage of this technically, the only way this is possible is to use an art program and manually fix them.
AI content needs to be indistinguishable from real art. So it can't contain any ai artifacts (squidfingers, fine details merging into other details in unnatural ways, ect). At the current stage of this technically, the only way this is possible is to use an art program and manually fix them.
That's a very subjective bar to make as a site-wide policy.. and not to mention the ambiguity - you can have AI generated images with varying level of such artifacts ranging from obviously messed up and unnatural stuff to you won't even recognize the aberrations from a cursory look, the latter of which seems more acceptable to me and believe the bucket my post falls under. But thank you for at least giving an explanation.
Many of our policies are subjective.
If there is any level of artifacting, the image is not allowed. As stated in the Terms of Service, AI-generated images must be indistinguishable from human-drawn. If we can identify artifacts at all, even if we have to look at it for a while or someone has to point them out to us, the image can be distinguished from human-drawn and will be removed.
Deleting images with artifacts has been a precedent since before AI-generated images were even a thing. AI upscales have been disallowed since Waifu2x very first came out, we've always only allowed third-party edits if it wasn't possible to tell that the image was edited without seeing the original, so even artifacts left behind from someone doing work by hand aren't allowed, and noticeable JPEG compression artifacts on their own are enough for an image to be deleted regardless of how well it was drawn. Artifacts of any kind lower the quality of an image.
As CarbuncleMew said, it's very rare for purely AI-generated images to be able to meet this bar. It usually only happens by sheer luck when trying to generate an image that avoids most of the elements that AI tends to mess up, such as chains, jewelry, and detailed hair. Most of the time, AI-generated images will need significant manual editing to be accepted.
The reason for the rule about only restoring AI-generated images if you can prove that it wasn't AI-generated at all is because if the image was deleted, then some member of staff found AI artifacts. This means that the post was distinguishable from human-drawn art. The only way for the deletion to be incorrect in this situation is for the image not to have involved AI at all and for the artifact to instead be a mistake by the human artist who drew it. It should be noted, though, that mistakes that look like AI artifacts will often qualify the artwork itself as being poor.
Understood, thank you for the detailed answer.
I drew this
Posted on: 05/04/24 08:34AM
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9989990
As I understand it, it was deleted because it looks AI generated? I mean, I can post a video showing the process if you want, but I don’t know how you could ever reach that conclusion, it’s a fairly normal drawing technically speaking. I admit the hand at the bottom has a weird perspective and I didn’t bother too much trying to make it look good I guess
As I understand it, it was deleted because it looks AI generated? I mean, I can post a video showing the process if you want, but I don’t know how you could ever reach that conclusion, it’s a fairly normal drawing technically speaking. I admit the hand at the bottom has a weird perspective and I didn’t bother too much trying to make it look good I guess
Posted on: 05/04/24 08:46AM
shotarini said:
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9989990
As I understand it, it was deleted because it looks AI generated? I mean, I can post a video showing the process if you want, but I don’t know how you could ever reach that conclusion, it’s a fairly normal drawing technically speaking. I admit the hand at the bottom has a weird perspective and I didn’t bother too much trying to make it look good I guess
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9989990
As I understand it, it was deleted because it looks AI generated? I mean, I can post a video showing the process if you want, but I don’t know how you could ever reach that conclusion, it’s a fairly normal drawing technically speaking. I admit the hand at the bottom has a weird perspective and I didn’t bother too much trying to make it look good I guess
Fuck it I will post the video anyways
files.catbox.moe/u8h2t3.mp4
HELP RESTORE 50+ IMAGES
Posted on: 05/05/24 11:07AM
Hi, I received an automated message over 50+ of the images I uploaded onto the site with the comic tag have been deleted these comic images are not from any manga or doujinshi and they are free to view on the artist's Pixiv for proof all these images are linked with there respective pixiv links please help me restore them )-':!!!
Posted on: 05/05/24 11:10AM
boznsj said:
Hi, I received an automated message over 50+ of the images I uploaded onto the site with the comic tag have been deleted these comic images are not from any manga or doujinshi and they are free to view on the artist's Pixiv for proof all these images are linked with there respective pixiv links please help me restore them )-':!!!
Hi, I received an automated message over 50+ of the images I uploaded onto the site with the comic tag have been deleted these comic images are not from any manga or doujinshi and they are free to view on the artist's Pixiv for proof all these images are linked with there respective pixiv links please help me restore them )-':!!!
We don't allow multi-page comics at all.
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