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SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 3477
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Your thoughts on "objectifying women"?
Posted on: 02/01/24 10:03AM

What are your thoughts on the phenomenon of "objectifying women"? The phrase is only getting more and more popular as we speak....

I'm too tired to write a longer post going into more eloquent detail, so I'll just say what I need to say really quick:

I think "objectifying women" has been watered down to a very bullshit argument, and for the most part, it's mostly just bullshit. Sure I think there's maybe some valid points when it comes to dealing with women in real life, and sometimes how we perceive women who aren't openly sexualizing themselves, but in modern practice it's mostly just dumb bullshit. Weird people simply just throw it out there because of their own bullshit agendas and little else.

Don't be a creep, don't be a rapist (lol), don't be a (blatant) sexist, and you're good to go. You're fine and you should have nothing to worry about. Don't listen to all these stupid fucking weirdos or these dumb feminist cunts in that gauging a woman's attractiveness is evil, bigoted, and shameful. Gauging how sexy a woman looks is a normal, natural, and healthy thing for men to do.

Okay me finished.



Flamingo123 - Group: Lysdexic and Kinp - Total Posts: 1894
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Posted on: 02/01/24 11:08AM

I mean… it's a problem but yeah it's imo kinda been talked about more on less serious stuff ? Like… how a character may look in a videogame but like it's not just girls… well ok it's more noticeable when there's stuff like bikini armor but that's just weird looking I don't really think it's that much of a problem (the bikini armor I mean)

But uh yeah things like what And Rotate
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And fans of him are like… yeah not good, but again, not super common I think just very annoying minority




Another thing is womanising objects like Azure Lane boats



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1604
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Posted on: 02/01/24 12:00PM

I will share something a friend once told me: if you think “that’s a nice ass on a woman” then that’s okay, but if you think “that’s a nice woman with an ass” then it is wrong and you’re a sexist piece of shit.



BRANLIX2000 - Group: Unofficial Gardener's Guild - Total Posts: 480
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Posted on: 02/01/24 02:15PM

Yeah it's sometime overused, as everything else these days, sadly. Doesn't mean it was a bullshit concept to begin with.
Something tells me we're gonna get some exemples of it in this very thread soon.



Hee-Ho - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2041
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Posted on: 02/01/24 04:48PM

There are genuine losers out there, if you actually watch some of Critikal's vids about creeps and yeah. It's a ruined and corrupt term like bigot or nazi, it became a meme and a weapon for communists towards someone who disagrees with them.
I'm curious, why did you made that question?



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 3477
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Posted on: 02/01/24 04:55PM

BRANLIX2000 said:
Yeah it's sometime overused, as everything else these days, sadly. Doesn't mean it was a bullshit concept to begin with.

Yeah fair enough, but I really do think it's really been watered down to the point where I'm iffy on the majority of its application to begin with. I do not think checking a woman out needs to be pointed out as "sexual objectification". Even if it is on a technical gotcha, it's not a real problem if you're not a bad person.

Hee-Ho said:
I'm curious, why did you made that question?

What inspired me to make this topic was the upcoming Stellar Blade video game and researching no fap testimonals.

The first being a bunch of sick rats harshly complaining about Stellar Blade's beautiful and sexy female protagonist, and they can't seem to provide a deeper reason other than "durrrr it's objectifying women". Literally no real explanation of why it's actually a bad thing, therefore giving me no choice but to see it as nothing but total bullshit from broken idiots.

The second were three no fap testimonals that made me roll my eyes. Some self-admitted loser virgins fapped their brains out to porn, now has seen the light, and has a preachy speech stating "I stopped objectifying women, and here's why YOU should too". Okay sure, maybe they did have actual issues with seeing women as nothing as sex objects, which is fine that they apparently "fixed" those issues, but don't ever try to put pressure onto other dudes (pretty much most straight dudes on the planet) onto "stop objectifying women". I just hate that shit so much, lol.



Hee-Ho - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2041
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Posted on: 02/01/24 05:35PM

"Stellar Blade"
I hope it releases on PC to be uncersored, I know Sony well.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1604
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Posted on: 02/01/24 05:53PM

I would rather live in a world where people are told not to objectify women, even to a ridiculous degree, than one where they are told that they should. With that said, I feel like it’s almost impossible to get laid if you’re entirely too respectful to a girl. It makes things like body language, flirting, etc. too difficult. And even if I agree with some moral standards more than others, that doesn’t mean I want a bunch of fascists shoving them down our throats.

As for stuff like porn and video games, I think that plays equally an important role in society as actual sex, because it is a good teaching tool, inspires fantasies, etc. The religious puritains have an eerie resemblence to Orwell’s worst nightmare imaginable, where the world is devoid of all pleasure, sex is only for the sake of reproducing more workers, etc.



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 3477
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Posted on: 02/01/24 05:53PM

A panty shot was shown in the Sony state of play, giving people lots of hope it's going to launch uncensored.

They could've easily omitted it, but they chose to leave it uncensored.

And I still cannot believe people managed to complain about that. Sony games almost never have fanservice like that, and yet it was enough to get the whiny cunts riled up about it.



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 3477
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Posted on: 02/01/24 06:16PM

supremz said:
I would rather live in a world where people are told not to objectify women, even to a ridiculous degree, than one where they are told that they should.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh I'd be a little careful with that. And it really depends on what you mean "not objectifying women" though. Because going by a feminist cunt's definition of "not objectifying women" and applying that as a global law could still be a total hellhole to live in, even if it's the more moral option compared to the inverse. Imagine simply checking out a woman, and some unsightly freak blows the rape whistle on you, and you're arrested for it. Or posting about how hot a woman is online, and it being treated like a serious rape threat that would get you banned or in legal trouble.

With that said, I feel like it’s almost impossible to get laid if you’re entirely too respectful to a girl. It makes things like body language, flirting, etc. too difficult. And even if I agree with some moral standards more than others, that doesn’t mean I want a bunch of fascists shoving them down our throats.

I wouldn't say "entirely too respectful to a girl", it's more like being brainwashed and paralyzed with fear of wrongthink (or just being a wretched asshole). I really don't think the people who are extremely concerned with objectifying women to an unhealthy degree, are getting laid in the first place. It would be like expecting a militant vegan to finish a whole steak in front of others.

As for stuff like porn and video games, I think that plays equally an important role in society as actual sex, because it is a good teaching tool, inspires fantasies, etc. The religious puritains have an eerie resemblence to Orwell’s worst nightmare imaginable, where the world is devoid of all pleasure, sex is only for the sake of reproducing more workers, etc.

Sad, but true.



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