A genuinely free country requires people being able to express wrong opinions. i.e. things thay everyone disagrees with but others believe it anyway. Otherwise the world would be pretty much the way it is presently, where everything that is considered offensive or predjudiced is shot down, made illegal, censored, and worse. In order to know what’s right, you need to hear what is wrong. It’s the very basis of free speech/thought.

Oops, wrong topic. Disregard.

I wasn’t talking about feminist extremism. I just mean basic respect by men towards women should be encouraged, because, historically, men have gotten away with beating, raping, and prostituting women for thousands, if not millions of years. It is still very commonplace in poorer countries that aren’t all the way caught up with the West.

Anyway, what I said is totally relevant to the topic because you’re using a very current example to criticize people who are “against objectifying women.” Most people who are of that opinion are not the people you describe. Hell, in most cases, it’s very difficult to maintain a healthy relationship with the other sex if you AREN’T also a good person. I would not define “objectification” as narrowly as others would, or you do, for that matter. I think there are genuine reasons to be afraid of people seeing women as nothing but vessels of physical pleasure and free labor, and there is a very toxic culture of abusive men who think exactly that, and that telling them to back off in the slightest somehow qualifies as “infringing on their rights.”

If I were female, I would be very cautious to avoid such people and maintain skepticism any time someone defends an anti-feminist or anti-sex stance, becaude I would know intuitively that they are at the same time making a statement against me and my ability to object to what they say and think about me.

It is much better for feminists to be wrong about something then, which they often are. If that should be the case, only so they don’t become another oppressed and ignored class of people. There are places where women are stoned to death, and I don’t see misogynists jumping to their defense, but any real feminist would.

Fair enough.

Perhaps I've briefly forgotten society isn't always about a privileged first world country, and briefly lapsed in knowing how some women are stoned to death for utterly barbaric reasons. It is very depressing and terrifying that women are treated as literal property in uneducated third world countries, even in this modern age.

Just to be clear, as if it weren't obvious enough, I'm all about treating women with respect, fairness, and equality. I just hate cunty feminists.


I must disagree with this though. In my personal experience, in both real life or the internet (but mostly just the internet) nearly everyone who I've heard vocally expressing the concern about the "objectification of women" are just weird people who have very bullshit, illogical, whiny, and shallow reasons for doing so. It has either been reduced to a narrow definition as I would define it, or blown up to a more complicated definition that seems intimidating and philosophical at first, but holds no weight once turned back to the viewer or viewed through the lens nature of reality and basic biology.


Key word "real feminists". Some "feminists" do not appear to give a single shit about real issues, and would rather complain about trivial nonsense. Aka, people complaining about Stellar Blade.

You are aware that woman can also be abusers towards men, right? This is a dangerous mindset to have that men harms more than woman. Which, by history and recent events, is a bullshit argument to have.
Woman who done terrible things are going unpunished than men because of beauty and "biology reasons", rising a gender bias division and makes the justice system a complete joke, no matter what country you're in.
Most men in charge can't take woman being evil seriously while a men is getting euthanised.
You are insinuate that men are the only one who treats woman like trash when in reality, humanity was treating each other like dirt for a really long time, regardless of sex, nation or biology.

This pretty much sums up my view. Otherwise objectification doesn't bother me at all. I strive to not do anything that directly harms anyone else but I think people should be allowed to have their simple pleasures without feeling guilty or compelled to be PC.

PC is retarded in general, thankfully it's only a small portion of people. Otherwise it's nothing burger.

It's a guilt tripping tactic to get idiots to kneel down to femenazis (and other similar groups who use race and gender as their weapon), to them hetero males are dirt, slaves, and always at the wrong while these "enlighten ones" are clean, smart and always right just like any naked dictator who claims they have the best clothes.

Don't expect them to have standards for only fans or prostitutes, they are to condition idiots to bow to them in compliance.

The best response is buy two copies of Stellar Blade (assuming sony doesn't censor it before/after release) then post your purchase for those no fap creatures.

Pretty much.
As I said, there's actual creeps out there, regardless of sex of course.
The term itself wasn't virtuous to begin with, despite what it attempt.