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supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1604
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Posted on: 02/02/24 06:04PM

Well like, what, you want to erase all the progress women have made since the 20th century? Because I would hardly call that a virtue. Anyway, I have made my opinion known. I’m not saying it’s the only one. And I said the quote was just an extra quip. Jesus. You act like everything I say has to be taken as a serious testimony or something. Chill out.



Hee-Ho - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2174
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Posted on: 02/02/24 06:28PM

"Chill it's just a opinion :)"
No shit sherlock, your opinion is not innume to criticizim, just like any RWBY fan ever.

And it's not when some womans had anchieved in history, it's the movement itself is the issue.



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 3845
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Posted on: 02/02/24 06:33PM

Well I'm not going to speak for Hee-Ho, but for me, erasing the ""progress"" of current day, internet slackvist, radical feminist bullshit would be just peachy.

It's a blight on society, an even nastier blight on things such as gaming culture, anime localization, the dating scene, etc. and it damages what true feminism actually means.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1604
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Posted on: 02/02/24 06:37PM

Your caricaturization of women’s rights is absurd. Ironically, it’s almost postmodern in how baseless and ungrounded in reality what you believe to be true. You do realize it’s because of feminism that women are in the same schools and jobs as you, correct? You’re the ones who need to study history.

SadSap said: Not as much as a strawman as believing women unable able to jump into war to avenge their dead husband/brother was actually a major point of injustice, lol. As clever of a unique response as that was, it's laughable to suggest that this is one of the things feminism is mainly concerned with.

Uh, no it’s not. That isn’t some fantasized hypothetical I pulled out of my ass; that really happened during the Civil War. When black slaves and Native Americans were allowed to fight on both sides, women tried to arm themselves and jump in, only to be horrified when the men told them they should stay at home.

Name any modern war within the past 50 years and I can almost guarantee you that the majority of women in that country wouldn't want to sign up and fight for it. Let alone drafted involuntarily, dragged kicking and screaming.

The US invasion of Afghanistan, which is the same war where Osama Bin Laden was announced dead. The Obama Administration allowed women to enlist for the first time in history, and they did willingly, with no draft.



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 3845
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Posted on: 02/02/24 07:15PM

I mean.... I can see the benefit of being forced to stay and home and avoid dying a bloody death by bullet/bayonet. And a pointless death in a pointless warfare, serving as a meat puppet, depending if that's how one views warfare.

Do you honestly think the majority of women in a country want to go to combat? Because I don't. I really, really, really don't. I think women who want to go into active combat with men are in the minority. And I think most people who have ever existed believe that.

I think there are several speculative reasons why the statistics of men vs. women deployed into actual combat are gigantically in men's favor, but I don't think those reasons solely have to do with the patriarchy restricting what women can do. Even in this age of gender politics and gender equality, almost everything I see related to military culture, deep combat especially, is all men. And I'm not talking about modern advertisements, western video games, television shows, etc. that include a bunch of women just for the sake of a progressive, feminist, message. I'm talking actual real life military experience and footage. And the memes. And the subculture. It's all men.



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1604
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Posted on: 02/02/24 07:37PM

If even one woman wants to fight in a war, then that contradicts your point. They don’t have to be a majority. We don’t live in a world that can accurately determine if women are fit for war like men, because they still have a long way to go before they are accepted as legitimate soldiers like their male counterparts. Someone like you, who is vehemently opposed to war and only sees it as an atrocious act full of horrifying death and tragedy would obviously be biased against it. Some people are more patriotic and can undergo the risks in battle knowing that they are fighting for a noble cause. I mean, unless women do the things that they are said to not -want- to do, then we will never know. That includes all the physical feats that those biocentrists say are only possible by men. Okay, that is certainly true as of now, at least until a woman does it and proves otherwise.

How are you simultaneously against women in videogames being portrayed inaccurately because of double standards about objectifying women and yet you’re going to freely disregard all the war propaganda that men consume from boyhood until they are old enough to be soldiers? There are no accurate statistics until all of that bullshit is gone, if it is ever gone. The simple truth though is that civilization is writhe with inequality and we have to wrestle with that on a daily basis.

Hee-Ho said: Saying otherwise is a "strawman" (onlyfan girls are fake lmao) and missing the point, good job showing us one of reasons why a majority of people, even womans, hates feminism as much as extremists (which they are).

I hate to say it, but that’s what a strawman fallacy is: an imagined construction of someone else’s argument that isn’t actually the one that is held, and you mistakenly perceive it to be the real one and argue with it instead.

None of you really have anything important to say, and you’re not even engaging with my points, so I’m gonna let it go.



Hee-Ho - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2174
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Posted on: 02/02/24 08:57PM

Making a huge wall of text doesn't cover the fact that your argument is still bullshit despite your "revelations".

How rich you drove SadSap in the mud for not knowing history when you said that womans had roles thanks to feminism, which is incorrect.
They had roles way before feminism was a thing, even important ones. Boudica was a leader of a tribe, Zenobia was a queen of a empire while her husband is a prince of sorts.
If you said was true, then they wouldn't been in their position before that.
Sure there were prejudice, it's humanity in general and it's not just played by gender or anything else.

I believe you are one of those children who believe anything if they say something good without giving a closer look or worse.



BRANLIX2000 - Group: Unofficial Gardener's Guild - Total Posts: 486
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Posted on: 02/02/24 09:25PM

Hee-Ho said:
There's just no way he genuinly thinks that

I swear to god justifying a blatant lie by using completly unrelated events is absolutely crazy
Instantly followed by another strawman, surreal

Respect Supremz I wouldn't have the patience to deal with and actually respond to all this bs



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